Nicholas Veniamin Interviews Deborah Pietsch General Flynn Q & A with Deb “Put down the popcorn, there is no plan, engage in this fight” 

 May 4, 2021

By  Deborah

Nick introduced Deb and jumped right in! He asked about how the raid on Mayor Guiliani’s home impacted the plan?

Deb thanked him for having her on the show again and said, before we talk about that, I want to talk about how people are addicted to intel these days. They are sitting on the sideline waiting for the ball to drop, but we are not meant to be waiting—as you will see from the interview I did with Gen. Flynn at the Health and Freedom Event. The whole great awakening and the transition we are in, we are meant to be engaging with how we are going to co-anchor Love, Light, God and Authentic Freedom on this planet. This is a global issue, but the US has to lead the way.

She explained that she receives her information through telepathic communications that she has been receiving for over 11 years, and that she’s had lots of confirmations, testimonials and evidence in this dimension. The situation that happened is that I believe something really shifted last week based on conversations I had, both with those I mentioned earlier, as well as others we met in Tulsa, like Patrick Byrne and MIke Adams. I believe there are different plans being executed, but it’s a moment to moment, shifting strategy. Some things are identifiable through Looking Glass and remote viewing, but there’s also things that are “zingers.”

She was told the Guiliani raid (not sure if FBI or DOJ) was not expected by the Whitehats, and it accelerated the methodical laying out of what the people that have stepped up in leadership in front and behind the scenes in regard to voter and election fraud, the “vaccination” situation and other things on the table. The most important of these is voter integrity, because without that, we have no democracy.

Lastnight our show, Warrior Up, was titled “It’s happening!!! Brace yourself for the unknown!” She felt that the Whitehats are trying to seed humanity with more waking up to the Great Awakening. And now that the nefarious ones have moved their agenda, we have done the same as quickly as they have. The Whitehats have been moving behind the scenes, especially in DC, where evacuations continue, and prepping for (she was choosing her words carefully) possibly some very big, obvious, physical representations of things very much shifting around the Whitehouse and Capitol. And this activity is going to shake people to their core.

Nick asked if when she was talking about the plan being accelerated, did she mean the Whitehats? Should I presume that is a positive thing…that we’re ahead? Here’s the thing, Deb answered, that one of the things she spoke with Gen. Flynn about was that there are millions of people sitting on the sidelines waiting for “trust the plan” to unfold. But this is a detriment. To those of us that are awake and that are patriotic and around the world that are holding the space for true authentic freedom…to basically transcend the matrix.

Let’s back up..the communication Deb received about January 6, is that the Whitehats were shocked, and how quickly that situation was turned in a very evil way, into the insurrection. Through black magic and dark alchemy, they used the insurrection act that millions had been holding space for Trump to invoke, to actually bring the nefarious ones into the tribunals. Nick said, “So they played it to the Deep States favor.”

Deb answered yes and that she is bringing that up because we’ve got to see that things are happening in a game of chess, but the nefarious ones are not following Universal laws. And she was told that the Jan. 6 event caught a lot of people by surprise. The reason she is sharing this because at that moment, you reassess. When you start to understand the level of demonic infiltration, the level of satanic ritual and black magic that is used, it is being used right now on a daily basis and has been for some time. So when the situation happened with Guiliani, plans had to be changed quickly. Just like when Mike Lindell launched FrankSpeech and he had to quickly regroup because he was infiltrated by hackers, but he was still able to keep his 2 day Frankathon going. Then he’s probably gone back to the drawing board to work on more security before relaunching May 10th.

Back to your question, the plans that have been unfolding in the background, they’ve had to continuously assess, and they have to figure out who is actually capable of holding truth, honesty, discernment and fortitude of Light and integrity. De said she thinks the Whitehats are finding that there’s been a tremendous amount of people in the judicial system, in the government, that are living deceptively literally wearing masks and facades that people are using. So they’ve had to accelerate the plans behind the scenes, because of the nefarious plans that were unexpected. That being said, that’s not always a good thing if for instance you needed more time to lay a foundation for a plan. And she feels that the “Rudy Raid’ was a marker in our timeline. And with ALL this being said, there’s the other part of it that is to not sit back and “trust the plan” but get in the game.

Nicholas wanted to add that he agrees that, yes, we want there to be a plan, but the most important thing that we need to change the world…is that we need to wake up…we need to have love and we need to forgive and we need to have respect because that’s what will increase the vibration on the earth. He talked about how we are connected by consciousness and that if another race were to look at us they wouldn’t see us individually, they would see one consciousness. To which Deb said, “Well right now, that’s not even possible. Because of all the satanic ritual and because people have their own agenda leading into our free will. The people that practice the black magic and the dark alchemy don’t give a shit.” Nick agreed. And he added that if we could get our frequency higher as a whole, the dark energy couldn’t exist in it. Deb said this is where the timelines are shifting. There’s timelines splitting, and I think that there’s no accident that President Trump is still holding the space in the field with the military and that he “holds the football.” And that the person known as Biden is holding a public space for president as well. If we are going to have a splitting of timelines, one being nefarious where people are willing to be in their free will as “sheeple” and willing to be controlled, that is their choice. But those of us that do not consent to that, and are anchored in our intention of absolute freedom, sovereignty, Love, Light and to ascend in our Light bodies—we also have a choice, and this is what is coming to a head. So the question is are you sitting on the sidelines? Or are you engaging with who you incarnated here to be. (The clip of Deb asking Gen. Flynn questions was played.)

Gen. Flynn is right, we all have to get involved, to lead by example, we have to plan the seeds, and people need to be educated, such as about wearing masks in a loving way so they will listen—It’s a bit like talking to a child.

Her take on it is that event was the shot heard around the world. Flynn also mentioned that “the rules were thrown out, they just wanted to get Trump.” So the Universal laws have been thrown out and we are in a contingency plan at this point. Flynn also said to live day to day and maximize your potential. This is what Scott and I do comes into play with shows, bootcamps, retreats and experiential tools. And the question that keeps coming up is are you living your life purpose, even if it has shifted in the last 20 years, or are you living in survival just trying to exist, because that’s a big part of this nefarious plan with the matrix keeping people disfranchised, disenchanted, and disengaged from their hearts. If you don’t have faith, if you’re not doing your spiritual work, it’s going to get very challenging. If you have a strong relationship with God, things are going to get very dicey. “I think that the shit that’s gonna happen is going to be so real, and so devastating, that their beliefs are going to be shaken to the core.”

She also wanted to say that she feels we’ve moved beyond the point of red-pilling and trying to wake people up…and Nick agreed. That door is closing for those who are choosing to remain asleep. We are in the time of the Great Awakening transition, and this is the time we have to put ourselves first. Just like when a plane loses altitude and the oxygen masks fall down, you are to use the oxygen first before you give it to your children or someone else.

Deb shared that she has been hearing from so many people who are horrified because their adult children have gotten the vaccination, and wondering now what’s goin to happen to them…and there’s the issue with the protein shedding. “Right now it’s got to be about you, yourself and you…and what’s in your highest Divine good,” said Deb.

Things are about to heat up fast and as the shit hits the fan, people are going to be rocked to the core essence of their beliefs, their faith…and also their shadow stuff will come to the surface. Like fears, coping mechanisms you have established because of this matrix, because of this alternate timeline that is filled with evil and nefarious energies and the programs.

Deb shred her motto of, “Now is the time to Unify, Organize, Strategize and Execute. It’s all about identifying where you are as an individual, and as a collective. People were not expecting what’s happened since March of 2020 and how this nefarious agenda has been able to play out. We have to reassess everything—like we’ve been dropped out of a plane in an unknown place. What he have now are many demonically controlled beings that are using facades, and not playing by the rules, including Universal rules. So we’ve got to become pioneers…we are in uncharted territory. So we’ve really got to come together and figure out what will get us through this transition…to take back our power that’s been taken away by this evil agenda…which is really a spiritual battle for our souls.

Our souls hold the Divine blueprint of who we are and who we incarnated here to be. And if your soul has become “contracted” from all the distortions and distractions, then you will feel lost without having/learning the tools, like activation energies to clear infiltrations, so you can move through the distortions to ignite your soul purpose.

Back to “the plan or plans,” that have been very Divinely intervened, we are now at “Choice Point”—meaning we have to decide what our roles are going to be—no more sitting on the sidelines. She brought up the quote from Gen. Flynn that we have to “maximize our potential.” The dark force energies do NOT want us to do that, they would rather we stay in waiting mode, which we’ve been doing since 9/11, instead of creating our new reality. And there also has been very little opportunity since then, for people to engage with really living their hearts desire and creating things that are empowering, and expansive and benefit humanity.

Nick agreed that yes, we have to be creative, it’s what the Creator has put us here to do—that’s what we’re best at. We all have to behave like leaders, no of us should be followers.

Deb agreed and went on to say the 9/11 event was a powerful satanic event, just like the JFK murder was—both being markers not he timeline—both sucking hope out of us.

Whether you believe JFK just died in January, that narrative about him being dead, and the way they took him out, that was the beginning of the rug being pulled out from under us. And the Twin Towers coming down by the hand of satanic ritual, represented the Divine male and female energy. And the news media has been using us, to create the reality that they choose. One of the biggest things that has come out of this Great Awakening, with Q and President Trump calling out the “fake news” is for people to clearly see the dishonesty.

Nick talked about how we don’t know how to manifest anymore. We’re so used to being led, so when we constantly hear the fear coming from the news, we are subconsciously manifesting it on their behalf and we need to take back that control. Think about people or things you love to manifest it in our new reality—we all need to do this together.

What Nick described is the Unified Field of Light, where we are each participating as powerful, loving beings of Light—not where we are giving our power away to the government where politicians are in control—that’s the inversion within the matrix.

Deb referred back to her conversation with Lin Wood where she had previously received guidance to ask him if it’s time to call the media “the enemy of the people” and that they are contributing crimes against humanity—and he completely agreed with her. She shared that his assistant felt that Deb’s questions inspired his moving speech at Tulsa. She also mentioned the fact that Mike Huckabee recently “dropped the seed” on Fox calling the media the enemy of the people.

So she shared this because now that this seed has been planted, so we are multi-dimensionally creating it. To manifest you’ve got to first have the idea of the possibility, then you move it into probability, then you move it into reality. So the seed is being planted in the lexicon of humanity right now to identify the media as the enemy of the people. Because then we have a physical representation of a group of people, that we’re actually fighting against. And who are operating nefariously in a way that does NOT support humanities evolution…or love…or God or whatever your Source energy is that keeps you in higher vibration. And also, by getting this “sed” about the media out there, that’s something anyone can to to take action and help to anchor it. Nick added that just by them doing this interview for the listeners is a part of taking action on it, so people understand the the media has failed their duty of care to the public.

This is important to understand that not only have they failed, they have a different agenda. They are utilizing media and they are the broadcast vehicle to take down humanity. And all the digital warriors need to keep telling the truth…and unify.

Nick asked about her interview with Mike Lindell. She said that he is absolutely committed and one of those people who have stepped forward as a leader. He was on fire and very excited about the launch of FrankSpeech which was days away at the time and where he was launching his third documentary about election fraud. He has done so much for this cause, has had his business attacked and boycotted and it was heartbreaking to hear that he can’t even go home because he doesn’t want to put his family in danger. Nick wasn’t surprised at all.

She talked about the work that she and Scott do is to be a bridge to help lift people out of this reality steep with all this nefarious energy so that we can rise up…we can ascend as the phoenix rising out of the ashes…and that’s not meant to be woo woo or New Age…because we are in NOW age. Nick agreed that we’re all evolving as part of the universe…it’s science, it’s physics, it’s DNA, the sun…it’s changing and we are rising.

Funny you should mention the sun, Deb shared, because she’s been getting more information coming in as she is researching her physical body and why she is overweight right now according to what she is eating. What’s come to her through this is that the purpose of the chem trails, is to distort the sun. The reason is because we, as human (hue-man, as in vibration) beings, we are meant to alchemically shift and go through transformation like the caterpillar into the butterfly. We are supposed to be utilizing the sun, like photosynthesis in plants, but we haven’t been able to because of the distortion. And yes she agreed with Nick that there really is a science to this that has been revealed in many ways, but has been brushed under the carpet. And the whole woo woo “New Age” thing was an inversion to keep people away from wanting to explore it. Nick added, just like the conspiracy theory term. Deb said absolutely!

We have to be very clear now where we’re…we’re in a contingency plan and we’ve got to look at our surroundings and see all the evil is playing out. We’ve got to strategize for our daily life how we’re going to evolve into this expansion and become sovereign being of Light. To become powerful ignited Souls, activated beings and leaders… and you, Nick, are one of those people that have stepped forward to do this and you’re doing it! To which Nick Added, “And I love it!”

Deb added that it’s her belief that God actually brought us into this Incarnation to have this much challenge, we were given these challenges because it’s no coincidence that not only do we enjoy this and we resonate with it, but we also have the ability to wake-up others.

They had talked about timelines earlier, and how those who are using their free will and choosing to stay in this frequency are holding us back. And we have to lovingly have a challenging conversation because there is so much division happening between families and friendships. And we have to make the hard choices you need to lovingly dismantle from in order to love and honor yourself. We’ve been taught that is selfish, which it’s not. You can’t go out and spread love if you’re not engaging with it for yourself. Then round two is about dismantling from what is no longer in your highest good….and, round three, are you willing to do that in order to engage with your Soul purpose?

We’re In A Spiritual War Transitioning From A Deceptive & Evil Reality To A New Timeline Of True Freedom, God & Love. You Must Engage & Activate All Aspects Of Being A Powerful Warrior Of Light To Successfully Make This Transition Of The Great Divide. You are being “called” to engage in ways that you may never have engaged and now is the time to roll up your sleeves and proactively engage with your journey of Awakening as if your life depends on it – why? Because it does! You Are At Choice Point – Choose Wisely

We are in a Spiritual War of dark vs light, love vs. hate, good vs. not good; a battle of God vs. Evil that wants to take control of our soul. It sounds intense because it IS! You at At Choice Point at this Great Divide of the Great Awakening, to constantly make choices about who you are and how you are willing to move forward. Warrior Up with Deb to Transcend the Matrix is hosted by award winning producer and multi-dimensional spiritual teacher, Deborah Pietsch.

We will be “tuning in” about things in general, as well as having people call in to be “in the Hot Seat” or to share in the dialogue. We will also be engaging in “things” at the energetic level as well.

You are being “called” to engage in ways that you may never have engaged in your life and the macrocosm of our country, the United States and the rest of the world. It’s time to roll up your sleeves and proactively engage with your journey of Awakening as if your life depends on it – why? Because it does! You Are At Choice Point, Choose Wisely!

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Telepathic Communicator, Activator, Spiritual Teacher, iTV & Radio host, Author & Award Winning Producer. Founder of I AM Awakening Academy and Owner of Mt. Shasta Ascension Spiritual Retreat Center, Partner & wife to Scott Bartle and guardian/Mom of two long haired Dachshunds; Bodhi & Princess Sunshine!


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